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Touching girls' butts in crowded bus
August 21, 2011
12:30 am
Crystal
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I really hate crowded buses.

Because of this kind of perverts one of which is pictured in the photos below.

One my friend by the way had a really unpleasant experience and since then she NEVER uses public transport!

 

August 21, 2011
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I think everyone likes touching girls' butts, even girls…

 

As for the photos, this seems intentional, but a few questions arise:

 

1) Are you sure it's not a porno shoot? I've seen a number where they use actual public transport and shoot secret videos with the actors and actresses milling about with the regular passengers.

 

2) Are you sure it's non-consensual? Canney and I engage frequently engage in covert “rubbing” while in public. Obviously, it's impossible to do anything more than excite, but the point is that it could be consensual.

 

3) If it's non-consensual, then why doesn't the female victim shout or slap him or move his hand away or even at the most passive end of the scale, simply move away from him? I'm not defending non-consensual groping, but by not doing anything, she's setting up a plausible defense for the groper which would let him off the hook.

 

At this point, 2 comments will most probably be made:

 

a) The man shouldn't do it to begin with…….. Duh, really? How about killing people and cutting up the body to bury? Is that ok? Thanks for a return to basics….

 

b) Most Asian cultures have trained women to not speak out so much as it's a loss of face or family honour or whatever. If they'd rather be groped and molested then as mentioned above, it creates the plausibility of an implicit agreement between the victim and assailant, not explicit, but IMplicit.

 

Or hey, maybe people could stop crowding into trains and wait their their turns…..

August 21, 2011
2:37 pm
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Elijah said:

At this point, 2 comments will most probably be made:

 

a) The man shouldn't do it to begin with…….. Duh, really? How about killing people and cutting up the body to bury? Is that ok? Thanks for a return to basics….

 

b) Most Asian cultures have trained women to not speak out so much as it's a loss of face or family honour or whatever. If they'd rather be groped and molested then as mentioned above, it creates the plausibility of an implicit agreement between the victim and assailant, not explicit, but IMplicit.

 

Or hey, maybe people could stop crowding into trains and wait their their turns…..

 

The second comment is valid.

Few years ago during a visit in Beijing I bought a huge kite. The same day I went out to fly it and invited one girl whom I befriended before to join me. We went to a place where many other people were flying their kites. After some time I gave the kite to this girl so that she also would try.

And then some old guy “volunteered” to help her. Nothing suspicious at first. But while dealing with the kite he touched her breast in a way that could be only intentional. She didn’t slap his face or moved away or shouted at him. After he did it for the second time, I “asked” the guy to move away. And then asked her – “You didn’t see what he was doing? How could you bear that?”

She was embarrassed by my question and just said – “Oh, he is just an old man”  

August 21, 2011
3:22 pm
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Like I said, doing nothing creates an atmosphere where it's acceptable and actually emboldens the molester to go further. It's a form of implicit acceptance. 

 

There's really nothing better in a situation like that than to bring a lot of attention to it. Victims need to be strong and bring light to it otherwise they'll become life-long victims and the criminal will get away with it.

 

Most sexual predators do it out of a compulsion for some form of control and when the situation is suddenly out of their “safety zones”, then they quickly retreat.

 

Like cockroaches and a kitchen light……..

 

Or officials and a public judiciary………

 

*ZING ALERT*

August 21, 2011
6:46 pm
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Not to use public transport is not an option for >90% of the urban population …

 

Perverts do exist in China, but by private judging (certainly no statistics available) the number of perverts in China is extremly low, compared with Europe, North-America and even Japan.

(or probably: the rate of perverts in the society is probably the same all over the world, but in China perverts don't dare to touch woman, because traditional values are still very strong).

 

Learn to use your elbows, very efficient and doesn't require much space!

August 21, 2011
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Perverts do exist in China, but by private judging (certainly no statistics available) the number of perverts in China is extremly low, compared with Europe, North-America and even Japan.

I wouldn't count on it. Sexuality is repressed in China, even today, and that kind of environment breeds weirdos. Especially when the usual response is for the woman to sit there and deal with it and not speak up. Don't kid yourself. Societies like that always have tons of molesters and deviants. You just never hear about all of them because they get away with their crimes when women don't do something about it or the authorities don't care enough to handle the root of the problem.

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August 26, 2011
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Pertaining to Asian countries, I read somewhere that around 40% of women who use public transportation have been molested or sexually assaulted in some form. I thought that number was a bit high. But after some of the conversations I've had with women, maybe not. Also I remember reading on this asian networking site. They interviewed some women about inappropiate touching. One girl stated that she was sexually molested everyday while taking trains to school when she was a high school student. I'm sure if she would have yelled at or attacked the person(s) assaulting her it would have stopped. But no…she just endured silently for who knows how long. She must have made these guys dayFrown. It happens so much I think because of the females keeping quiet.

 

There's also an issue I've been reading about where women go to massage parlors or women's doctors and there is a lot of sexual and an inappropiate touching going on and some of the girls just “accept it'. In this regard at least.. western women are better about not putting up with that -beep-.

I'll do it for a dollar....
August 27, 2011
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RJallday said:

Pertaining to Asian countries, I read somewhere that around 40% of women who use public transportation have been molested or sexually assaulted in some form. I thought that number was a bit high. But after some of the conversations I've had with women, maybe not. 

Well… I can confirm that I have come across more than one perv while using buses in China.

If moving away doesn't help, I just say loudly “What are you doing?!” It works almost as well as slap in face. 

***

Referring to this I remember reading recently an article about a forum for exhibitionists (Dickflash.com).

Very popular forum where these guys share their experience and give tips how to “flash their …”

And here is the quote regarding Asian females as targets (pay attention that they are talking about Asian Americans):

No white women over the age of 25 unless you have a wicked getaway plan. Flash Asian women or Black women, Asian’s are too embarrassed to call the cops and black women think it’s funny.

August 27, 2011
1:36 am
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Crystal said:

Well… I can confirm that I have come across more than one perv while using buses in China.

If moving away doesn't help, I just say loudly “What are you doing?!” It works almost as well as slap in face. 

***

 

Good girl, don't put up with that -beep-.

 

Referring to this I remember reading recently an article about a forum for exhibitionists (Dickflash.com).

Very popular forum where these guys share their experience and give tips how to “flash their …”

 

Now Crystal, here I was thinking “you go girl!” and then you suddenly bring this up.

 

I'm incredibly curious and frightened of hearing why or how you found that website…… 

 

Speechless…. Surprised

August 27, 2011
2:05 am
Crystal
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Elijah said:

Now Crystal, here I was thinking “you go girl!” and then you suddenly bring this up.

 

I'm incredibly curious and frightened of hearing why or how you found that website…… 

 

Speechless…. Surprised

Very simple.

I read about them on one of my favorite websites:  

http://disgrasian.com/2011/08/…..rs-united/

August 27, 2011
3:02 am
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Crystal said:

Very simple.

I read about them on one of my favorite websites:  

http://disgrasian.com/2011/08/…..rs-united/

Oh thank God I do't have to start worrying about what you're going to post next…..

 

That's a hilarious site, a bit depressing in some ways, but the Asian Summer's Eve Hail to the V commercial had me breaking up….

 

 

I love the Mandarin near the end, so classic.

 

“Do you have permission to talk? Do you know who I am? Huh? <unclear cause of the voice overlap> I'm a big name in china. Idiot! -beep- idiot! (assuming she's saying “bendan” cause of the unclear pronunciation)”

August 27, 2011
6:27 pm
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Crystal said:

Well… I can confirm that I have come across more than one perv while using buses in China.

If moving away doesn’t help, I just say loudly “What are you doing?!” It works almost as well as slap in face. 

***

I'm just curious Crystal…have you ever had to slap anyone? Also, what's your initial reaction? Are you shocked, appalled or like “Damn…here we go againConfused

Referring to this I remember reading recently an article about a forum for exhibitionists (Dickflash.com).

Very popular forum where these guys share their experience and give tips how to “flash their …”

And here is the quote regarding Asian females as targets (pay attention that they are talking about Asian Americans):

No white women over the age of 25 unless you have a wicked getaway plan. Flash Asian women or Black women, Asian’s are too embarrassed to call the cops and black women think it’s funny.

Haha, it's messed up but it's interesting. You can always find videos of flashers posting something on any unrated video website. I saw videos of some white guy do it around some black women. I thought they would go off and attack him. But they did indeed just laugh and even casually made jokes about it. It was soo bizarre seeing that reaction. Of course you can't say that is always going to happen. But it's funny that that was said on some website and that is indeed the reaction I saw.

I'll do it for a dollar....
August 27, 2011
9:31 pm
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This girl grabbed my arse on the subway in Shanghai one time.

August 28, 2011
1:48 am
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ziccawei said:

This girl grabbed my arse on the subway in Shanghai one time.

Sorry Zic, but that wasn't a girl.

 

It's ok, we've all been confused by the body waxing, pedi/mani-ed metrosexual with a murse and perfectly gelled hair…..

 

Shanghai nights baby! 

 

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September 1, 2011
7:03 am
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If i was in the bus with a girl with legs like this and a skirt like this, i don’t know what i would be capable of.

 

But i certainly wouldn't be the sick pervert taking pictures and doing nothing but to stare.

September 1, 2011
7:17 am
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Soldano said:

If i was in the bus with a girl with legs like this and a skirt like this, i don't know what i would be capable of.

 

But i certainly wouldn't be the sick pervert taking pictures and doing nothing but to stare.

Confucius says:

“NOT the man who touches girl's butt is a pervert, but the one standing next to him and taking the pictures!” 

September 1, 2011
7:19 am
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AH AH AH AH you got it.

BTW i got your message, sorry i was busy with work lately. I swear i'm not going anywhere !

September 1, 2011
7:36 am
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What if you stand to the side and take photos while you're touching her butt?

 

Just curious…. Um…. No reason to know….. 

 

*Ahem*

September 2, 2011
3:48 am
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Elijah said:

What if you stand to the side and take photos while you're touching her butt?

 

Just curious…. Um…. No reason to know….. 

 

*Ahem*

That would accurately describe a japanese pervert.

September 2, 2011
5:23 am
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Soldano said:

That would accurately describe a japanese pervert.

But I'm Cana…… Nevermind….

 

Thank you for that clarification.

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