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The Problem of Gender Imbalance in China

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Me and my cousins

In the picture above you can see me with my cousins. There are two points that one can learn from this photograph: one which is very characteristic to modern China, and another – not.

The first is not obvious unless you know that my grandparents from mother’s side had five children. Each of them gave birth to just one kid: an illustration of one child policy in action.

The second point becomes visible when you notice that all of the cousins are… girls! And this peculiarity is the one which is not characteristic of Chinese families who have traditional preference for sons.

Although one child policy succeeded to slow down the growth of population in China, it has also produced some undesirable demographical changes. One of them is the unnatural imbalance between males and females of marriageable age. It is unnatural for a very simple reason: although in human population there is a slightly bigger number of male infants born (the normal proportion being 1.03 – 1.07) – this can be seen as evolutionary mechanism compensating for the higher mortality of males in ALL age groups – so that by the age of reproduction there would be roughly the same number of men and women.

In China, however, the proportion of males at birth is about 1.2/1. And it is even higher in the group of elder children (1-4 years old). Recent survey (2005) showed that in the group of Chinese under 20 years old there are 32 millions more males than females!

It’s not the secret that many Chinese feel very unhappy if their only child is a girl. Thus, the question is – what possibilities are available to parents who want to control the gender of their baby? The survey mentioned above names them:

  1. determining the gender of fetus during pregnancy and aborting in case it is female
  2. killing the newborn girls
  3. transferring baby girls for adoption
  4. giving half-hearted treatment for sick daughters in cases of illness

Due to availability of ultrasound, since the mid-1980s the main contributor to abnormal gender ratio became the sex-selective abortion (instead of post-birth neglect and abandonment of girls). And though the pre-birth sex determination has been outlawed in China, it is hard to explain the sex ratio distortion of such scale without assuming that “son-desperate” couples have access to illegal medical services.

Of course, majority of families never use any of the options mentioned above. But too often Chinese girls feel that their parents would be happier if they were boys. This cultural phenomenon is not restricted to mainland China. Let me quote one story about American Chinese from an interesting blog “At the back of the hill”:

Bright, vivacious, super intelligent. Her mom frequently verbally abused her in public, and the entire family got on her case for being admitted to Berkeley – stupid girl, so much money! So she never went. Did City College for three years, committed suicide in the fourth.
Her brother went to Stanford, and had his own apartment in Palo Alto. His education was funded entirely by his grandfather, because the boy would make the family proud.
Last I heard, they were very proud of him. He’s a PHD.
It is forbidden to ever mention that bad luck girl. Who?

I guess that at this point you won’t be surprised to learn the fact that China is the ONLY country in the world where more women commit suicide than men. Actually, 56 percent of the world’s female suicides occur in China!

So, what impact can the gender imbalance have on Chinese society? Authors of the paper “Abnormal sex ratios in human populations: causes and consequences” name few possible scenarios. First of all, it’s worth to note that the shortage of women in the marriage market allows them to “marry up”. As a result, the men who stay single usually belong to a lower socioeconomic class.
The situation when a high proportion of low-status males can’t create families and don’t have outlet for their sexual needs leads to increased levels of antisocial behavior and violence. Some researchers even predict that:

These men are likely to be attracted to military or military-type organizations, with the potential to be a trigger for large-scale domestic and international violence. With 40% of the world’s population living in China and India <…> the sex imbalance could impact regional and global security, especially because the surrounding countries of Pakistan, Taiwan, Nepal, and Bangladesh also have high sex ratios.

Other possible consequences include expansion of sex industry, women trafficking and rise in homosexual behavior (or at least increased tolerance toward homosexuality).
If this prognosis comes true, then such occurrences of violence as 2010 school attacks won’t be the news deserving a separate entry in Wikipedia and even unblocking of porn sites won’t help.

2010 is the year of national population census in China. There is a hope that its results regarding the males/females ratio won’t be as grave as calculations predict. The reason for such hope is embedded in the fact that many parents choose not to register their children fearing the fines and other measures undertaken against the violators of one child policy.

In 1990, the national census recorded 23 million births. But by the 2000 census, there were 26 million ten-year-old children, an increase of three million <…> normally, you would expect there to be fewer ten-year-olds than newborns, because of infant mortality.

 

It seems, however, that some local authorities [of Beijing] decided to take a serious stance against the parents and strip the unregistered children of citizenship.

There is one example regarding the one child policy that I want to bring in conclusion. Attempt to manipulate the nature is not the first in the history of modern China. Fifty years ago amidst the Great Leap Forward tree sparrows were accused of stealing the harvest from Chinese peasants. The war on birds was declared.

Initially, the campaign did improve the harvest.

[But] by April 1960 the National Academy of Science found that sparrows ate insects more than seeds. Mao declared “forget it”, and ordered the end of the campaign against sparrows. By this time, however, it was too late. With no sparrows to eat them, locust populations ballooned, swarming the country and compounding the problems already caused by the Great Leap Forward and adverse weather conditions, leading to the Great Chinese Famine in which around 30 million people died of starvation.

I understand that my analogy is far-stretched but in both examples there was an idea of improving the people’s life (minimizing the losses of harvest / alleviating the poverty) by implementing the nation-wide policy (four pests campaign / one child policy) which contradicted the nature’s “plans” (existence of species / human fertility rate) and created negative side-effects (onset of locusts / gender imbalance) leading to disastrous consequences (famine / ???).

Worried Crystal Tao

  • http://www.chineseartsale.com Tim Robinson

    Wow! I knew of the sad situation for many women in China, but I didn’t realize just how bad it can be. Thankfully, your family and many other families treasure their daughters.

  • john

    I can never understand the Chinese (and elsewhere, it has to be admitted) predilection for boys. My experience is that it’s mostly girls who do the real work, while the boys just sit around smoking, or shooting baskets.

    The most serious consequence of the gender imbalance is that China leads the world at people trafficking. (See CIA World factbook).

    The gender imbalance is mostly a product of rural areas, where the country people cling to their superstitions. There are too many stories of girls killed at birth for it not to be true. City people tend to recognise the value of the female half of the sky.

    One consequence of the one-child-family policy has been the arising of the ‘little emperors’. I had a summer school one time in Zhejiang which comprised such. They were ill-mannered, selfish, rude, ignorant, didn’t understand the word ‘no’ and were incapable of sharing. Some of the little emperors are now adults, but I can’t help feeling they are incapable of forming any partnership, so will die out because they can’t reproduce. let’s at least hope so.

  • sky

    Very insightful and interesting post. Hopefully there are many more in China like yourself with an eye towards the betterment of society – and hopefully this is true everywhere else, too.

  • Vincent

    I thought this gender imbalance would be advantageous to women in China, but obviously not. Good article.

    • http://www.lovelovechina.com Crystal

      Yes, this is really a paradox.
      And here is another quote from the paper mentioned in the post:

      However, it has also been argued that the increased value of women could have a negative side, especially in rural society; increased female value may not benefit the woman herself, but rather the males around her. Her father, husband, and in-laws all hold her value, so when her value increases her life is more controlled by them. Hudson and Den Boer cite as examples the increase in kidnapping and trafficking of women…

  • China Shark Mike

    Interesting post. There are definitely some long term consequences for playing god and manipulating nature’s figuires. Genetically when we are first conceived we are all initially female. Depending on a lot of factors, stress, diet, environment etc play a big part on whether the female becomes a male or stays female. Pretty sure I gleaned this information from the discovery channel or science program on cable. Also, I saw something last month when I was in Hong Kong on how lower men’s sperm rate is on the rapid decline globally. So having more females in reality gives a bigger gene pool to survive as a species. The males I see here are weak and not worth a damn to women here. The little emperor syndrome gets real old quick here. A couple of months ago I saw a man carrying a boy that looked to be at least 13 or 14 kicking and screaming like a 5 yr old little girl from the car or private taxi. If that was my child I’de had slapped him once and would have ended that idiocy right there and then. The problem I forsee is that the culture is pampering these men while chastisying the daughters for merely be female. I have a friend who’s father was a rich bank manager and refused to let her come to a university in America {full scholarship} because he felt women don’t deserve the right to be educated the same as males. True story and this is a 37 yr old woman, once married Chinese divorced after he produced a daughter instead of a son. How twisted is that. Women here will always be second class citizens here. I always wanted a boy but after seeing the way they behave here I want my son to grow up to be a man and not a manchild. About 10 yrs ago I saw a program on the infatcide on Chinese girls in the rural parts of China. Was shocked and appalled by that type of lack of sensibility in reguards to a human child, what kind of message is that showing the world. Who is to say that the women are any different than men, I see disgraceful behavior all the time perpetrated by men and sometimes just want to layeth the smackdown on these guys. Bottom line is that women are being devalued and becoming leftovers {unmarried}, because there are always new girls to misuse here. Shenzhen women outnumber the guys 10 – 1 in the city and 12- 1 in the outskirts. I just met a really sweet woman from Chengdu who is 35 and never been married. One of the nicest woman I’ve come across in Shenzhen, honest and not money grubbing like the majority of the woman in Shenzhen. Women here feel mistreated therefore all men become jerks therefore selffullfilling prophecy of never trusting a good man. It’s funny how the government appears to care but in reality are just playing political pattycake to appease the masses and appear to actually care. If the policy was to be enforced lock people in prison for neglect. Make them accountable, levy big penalty fines. Double the fine it is for having more than one baby. As long as people turn the blind eye things will never grow as a culture.

  • Arnold

    Agree 100% with you there .. Mike .

    And us Humans call ourselves Civilized ? Somebody please show me where and how ! It’s not only in China !

  • Ziccawei

    The One Child Policy is one of the most fascinating subjects for me in China. I read a lot about it.

    The devastating effects of it are starting to come to fruition now and I think in the next ten years China will witness some major social change and social unrest as a result of it.

    A few things:

    A surplus of men – by 2020, most cencus reports say that there will be 24 million males of marriageable age that will not be able to find a wife. This in and of itself may not be of much concern as these men would be scattered across all the country (mostly in deprived poor areas) and may not be able to communicate effectively enough to encourage any kind of social unrest situation. But it will not be pretty.

    The Shanghai Princess – or Shenzhen Princess or Beijing Princess, whatever… These girls have literally been ‘created’ as a result of being unique and special due to a lack of females. They grow up being told this daily. They become a commodity, literally to be sold off to the highest bidder by their own parents. Due to their inability to share or communicate properly and their inherent lack of social skills, divorce rate will skyrocket.

    Little Emperor Syndrome – Anyone that has been in China longer than six months is aware of this. The me me me generation of always being first, never being reprimanded, never being told ‘no’. As a result of this divorce rates will escalate (Shanghai has the same divorce rate as Britain now – this rate has leapt up in the last ten years sharply).

    Divorce as a result of the child being female – Many couples divorce because the child is female. The man’s family often encourage him to divorce so he can try again for a son. My brother’s wife is such a case and I know of at least three young women in Shanghai that are the same.

    These things are more specifically about the one child policy, but I think the pressure it has put upon young women in China today is intense.

    It is said that any country that has a surplus of men often goes to war.

    Recently the guy from the IMF said that because of China’s currency that this could be a threat to democracy and world peace. America often feels that China is pushing it’s buttons… That could take care of any gender imbalance rather quickly.

  • BJ

    The gender imbalance you highlight in your post is well known to anyone who lives in China (like myself) or who pays any attention to this part of the world. But it is, of course, just one aspect of the changing population density in China. I ran across an interesting article on China Beat the other day, written by one Wang Feng, a sociology professor in the US. In which he notes, along with the gender imbalance, some interesting numbers. Such as 160 million…

    He says there are 160 million migrant workers, who have been the backbone of China’s economic growth, but their numbers are dwindling due to the one-child policy as well as from a decreased fertility rate for the past 20 years. Currently, there are 160 million people who are 60 and over. This population is expected to grow to 200 million by 2015 and 300 million by 2030. And there are 160 million families with just one child. Accordingly, he says, the population density of Chinese aged 20-24 will decrease from 125 million now to just 68 million by 2020.

    His conclusion? “The abundance of young, inexpensive labor is soon to be history.” And a burgeoning aging population will “force national re-allocations of resources and priorities, as more funds flow to health care and pensions.”

    [Unrelated: I ran across your blog after reading an article you published, I think on ChinaHush. Seems you haven’t been up and running all that long, but I read most everything and enjoyed getting acquainted with your perspective and insights on Chinese culture. I’ve been here five years, so much of what you offer I’m fairly familiar with, but I’ll stay tuned in.]

    • Ziccawei

      That’s interesting stuff about those figures for migrant workers and China’s future youth numbers.
      Looks like the year 2020 could be quite an interesting year in China.

      • http://www.lovelovechina.com Crystal

        First, let’s see what surprises the 2010 census brings :!:

  • SB

    Interestingly, my girlfriend’s mother actually wanted a daughter over a son, in no small part to spite her own mother over the slights suffered in her youth.

  • The John

    Excellent work!

    You blog is officially in my top 3 for China.

    You are not just writing or copying non-sense.

    Also, most of the posters are not idiots.

    Overall, good stuff.

    I really appreciate that you can share such opinions.

    Do other Chinese feel the same as you, when it comes to the one child policy?

    I really feel that the policy will have long term problems. However, how do we deal with such a policy? If we get rid of it, the population will explode? Is a 2 child policy more reasonable? Should be allocate certain families to have children and give benefits to those who don’t? Maybe, we should train and build rural areas?

    There seems to be no real answer to this problem…

    Another big problem is China’s food source. China gains a lot of food from poor rural areas. The areas that will be most neglected when it comes to marriage… What will happen when farmers start to age? Many families don’t want their children to become farmers… Will that affect how chinese obtain food? Will farming become industrialized? Or will farmers earn more and gain increases in salary?

    How this will all play out is very interesting.

    • Ziccawei

      The Chinese govt did an experiment of a ‘two child policy’ in a small town in North East China. By scale, the effect of the decrease in population rate was much the same as the rest of the country. With the one child policy, not enough thought was put into it and it was very badly orchestrated. Now they are beginning to see the price they will pay. Too many men, too many old people, workforce not big enough.
      Good point about the farmers reducing in number The John. I had not thought of that point before.

  • Horror

    China’s cheap labour force is mainly women in factories. Majority of the men are not prefered for factory jobs so a lot of them will be unemployed. When unemployed the guy can’t find a wife. Which means so much for having a son that can’t make a family to continure the family name!

    For the China princess syndrome. Its over rated thinking the guys ournumber them. But what they haven’t thought of was how rich elite guys that match their dating/marriage requirements are rare. Which means these China princesses outnumber these rich elite guys. These China princesses’ miscalculations made them go past 30 and gone expired because they thought men of their requirements outnumber them. The rich elite guys getting several girlfriends on the side showing that they are the ones getting outnumbered and have all the choices.

    • Ziccawei

      I think with the China Princess, it’s more a question of their parents thinking that their daughter will be swamped with offers from male suitors. Of course they got it all wrong. The girl grows up believing she can practically walk on water and it’s her parents fault that she has this attitude.
      A complete spoilt brat whose marketability is greatly reduced each birthday after 25.
      I just now spoke to a young Chinese guy and this topic came up – ‘No one wants a girl older than 30!’ he said, like it was the most disgusting thing to even consider it.
      A direct result of the One Child Policy.

  • Pete

    Another aspect of the “little emperor” syndrome, and the fact that women are so devalued in China, is that (in my experience, ;-) ) many Chinese women prefer to date and marry western guys (Europeans, Canadians, Americans, etc.), and not all of them are just looking for a green card. They like the fact that most decent western guys will treat them a heck of a lot better than the spoiled “little emperor” that hasn’t ever really grown up. This is just going to make the gender imbalance that much worse, and it also feeds into the sometimes scary Chinese nationalism that seems to be increasing. I know the Chinese government has been easing up on the one-child policy as of late, but the next 20 years or so are going to be interesting – I hope not in a bad way…

    • Ziccawei

      I think you’re completely wrong there, Pete….

      The number of foreign guys marrying Chinese girls just creates a tiny little dent in the demographics.

      • The John

        Agreed!

        The number of foreigners in China is less than 1%. Out of that 1%, a majority of them are not long term. Most of them stay no more than 1 or 2 years. That leaves an extremely small number of men marrying locals. I mean marrying! Not dating… Sure, you can say that some marry and move back to their homes countries. But, even they are in the extreme minority…

      • Pete

        Actually, you are most likely right about the demographics, Zicc; nevertheless, there seems to be an awful lot of Chinese women that want out of China and/or out of really bad relationships, and that can’t help the overall gender imbalance problem. I don’t have any hard numbers to back up my impressions, but I’ve met a whole lot of divorced Chinese women and married Chinese women that basically can’t stand their husbands. It doesn’t strike me as a very healthy situation for the Chinese society as a whole, and I think it just exacerbates the gender imbalance – maybe not by much, though, I concede.

        • Ziccawei

          That’s a whole different issue about whether Chinese women are satisfied by their menfolk, Pete. I would say that many of the Chinese girls I have spoken to seem unhappy sometimes. Many sexless, loveless marriages in this country. Divorce is still very much taboo in China.

          • Pete

            It may be a different issue, but it seems to me to be certainly related. As you’ve pointed out in other comments (and I agree), women are the biggest victims of the one-child policy. I think some number of them are aware of that – at least some I know are at least resentful of the fact that they cannot (without major problems down the road) have more than one child. Many also just plain don’t like Chinese men – I’ve heard this directly from several Chinese women, both in mainland China and Chinese women that have immigrated to the US. If there are (or are going to be in the near future) 30+ million more men in China than women, it can’t help that some additional number of them (how many I don’t know) won’t be able to find wives because they’re (to put it bluntly) jerks that no woman will put up with. And I think this problem will contribute to some of the other conclusions that you’ve laid out in other comments – human trafficking, forced prostitution, etc. I can give you just one statistic to back up what I believe – one dating site targeted at western men I know of has well over over 3 million Chinese women registered.

            • Ziccawei

              Um, just for research purposes, what would be the name of that dating site?

              :mrgreen:

              • Pete

                Asia Friend Finder

  • Nick

    56 percent of female suicides are in China?!?

    That is a horridly sobering statistic, considering how many wonderful, lovely, intelligent, kind, gentle Chinese ladies I have had the pleasure to meet in my life.

    Crystal, please forgive me, but there is something seriously wrong with a culture that enables that kind of terrible statistic to be true. China has roughly one fourth the world’s population, so statistically speaking their female suicide rate is more than twice that of the average of other countries.

    I love China, I truly do. No country or culture is perfect, of course, but I have found so much in China to appreciate and admire. This, however, is horrifying. Being a university professor myself who has lectured in China, I know several female PhD’s and doctoral students. I cannot imagine how a family could actively discourage a young lady from pursuing an education, especially when she was accepted to a prestigious institution like Berkeley.

    • http://www.magnoliaarts.com TLB

      Unfortunately, this kind of discouraging behavior is not limited to China. I live in central Texas, and spent 6 years as an elected School Board member for a school district of 11,000, over 50% of whom are of Hispanic heritage, and many of those are migrant workers from Mexico and Central America. I heard too many times to not believe it (from teachers) that many parents (especially from poor Mexican families) do NOT want their female children to do more than graduate from high school and be a good mother and wife — which, considering where they came from, would be a major accomplishment for the family.

      Some of these young girls were very gifted in academics, including science and math, but were not allowed by the parents to pursue those interests.

      I’m not AT ALL saying it’s not worse in China and elsewhere, just saying this attitude toward women and their “place” is unfortunately a world-wide phenomenon. And we all lose because of it.

      • Ziccawei

        TLB, you are right. Having a preference for a boy over a girl is specific to a poor country or certainly a developing country.
        I am English and my cousin is married to a guy from quite a traditional country. He always wanted a son – he got three daughters! Ha!

  • Nick

    Five lovely ladies in that picture! The little girl is ADORABLE.

    That just makes this whole post of your even sadder, to think of the lovely ladies who have ended their lives due to the perceived societal pressures, or of the little girls who have been abandoned to orphanages. I know several families who have adopted little girls from China. It is bitter-sweet at best, because while the little girls will have loving homes, they are all being denied access to their heritage. It is not with malicious intent, but simple ignorance on the part of the parents. They are working so hard to raise them as “American” children that they are being denied their heritage.

    I had a classmate during my doctoral studies who had adopted, with his wife, three older (7-12 years old) children from Russia. He and his wife learned Russian, and they actually forbade the children to speak to each other in English because he wanted to make sure that they did not lose touch with their heritage and their language. The other children that they had naturally also learned Russian. The kids attended school in the USA and had sufficient contact with English during school.

    I am not advocating that a family completely change everything they do for the sake of one adopted child, but there must be a balance somewhere to allow the adopted child to appreciate her heritage while still being part of a family with a different cultural heritage.

    • http://www.magnoliaarts.com TLB

      Nick, while I empathize with your point, keep in mind that the young Chinese girl’s heritage is what abandoned her to an orphanage. She will have plenty of opportunity to re-connect with “being Chinese” if she wants to, on her own time and in her own way (and with that part of it that she chooses).

      I’m just saying there are lots of ways to do this (raise someone from another culture), and for me anyway, I don’t see one as inherently superior (especially in the US, where there are now lots of adopted children who are obviously of different genetic heritage from their adoptive parents, so the social costs of being part of such a family lessen by the day).

      • Louisa

        I understand your point TLB, but I have to point out that it is extremely difficult for a person of one culture to grow up in another culture and then attempt to “re-connect” with the first one. Although my situation is different from an adopted child’s (I am an ABC), I’ve found that I continuously struggle between “being Chinese” and “being American,” clichéd as it sounds. I regret that when I was younger that I didn’t devote more effort into learning about my Chinese heritage, as the dominant culture was American culture. I grew up speaking Chinese, but my reading and writing skills are at the level of a fifth grader’s, even after years of Chinese school and university classes. I can’t even fully understand Chinese TV. Chinese people don’t consider me Chinese but American, and non-Chinese people consider me not American but Chinese. Being told that you don’t fully belong to any of the cultures you grew up in really complicates the matter of searching for your identity.

        So what I’m saying is that the idea of having “plenty of opportunity to reconnect” in the future is not as easy as you may have implied. It’s hard enough for me, and I was exposed to Chinese culture since I was born. If she chooses to reconnect in the future, but has no idea what Chinese culture is, it would be hard for her to be accepted as or “be Chinese.” If she chooses not to, then she is still going to have to face “looking Chinese” compounded with frustration at not being considered fully “American” or what-have-you. So I guess what I’m saying in my long winded way is that exposing a young Chinese adoptee to her heritage at least provides a way in for her if she ever decides to attempt the feat of trying to “be Chinese.” I’m grateful for my exposure to the Chinese culture from a young age, as it has somewhat eased my search for identity than for my other ABC non-Mandarin speaking friends.

        I also don’t think that one culture is more superior than another, but for a person who does not look the way the dominant culture’s people do, or in this case the way that their parents do, it adds another dimension/obstacle in her search for identity. Minorities in any culture have to deal with this issue anyway, but I’ve found that if you’re given the opportunity to start at a young age it would be easier for you in the future to connect with your ethnic heritage.

        • Ziccawei

          I’m really glad that you posted the above, Louisa. I’ve always felt that ABC’s are rowing their own boat (not American/not Chinese) and almost have their own cultural identity.

          Sometimes, when I have got into conversations with ABC’s about Chinese people/Chinese culture they have said things to me that don’t quite ring true – ‘Chinese people do this, think that, blah blah blah’ – I’ve never argued with them as I thought that they should know what they are talking about. But after reading your post I’m inclined to think that maybe they don’t always know.

          For example last night I was talking to an ABC girl then later I met up with a mainland girl from Gansu – like chalk and cheese. Totally 10000% different in every aspect.

          And I agree with you Louisa, you could never be considered Chinese by the Chinese and you could never be considered American.
          This is what is happening now – The Chinese Diaspora will create (due to sheer numbers) a different cultural group. A French born Chinese and an American born Chinese will have more in common with each other than any other French, American or Chinese person.

  • SteveLaudig

    “produced some undesirable demographical changes. One of them is the unnatural imbalance between males and females..”

    Whose “desire” is privileged here?

    Who determines “natural” and “unnatural”.

    Left to their own devices species overpopulate until plague or famine reduce the population.

    “Plague” is “natural” though, I suppose, “undesirable” to the author. Actions have consequences, no doubt. But inaction is an action and having no plan is a plan but it is a bad plan. The entry is one long complaint with no suggestions.

    • http://www.lovelovechina.com Crystal

      “Unnatural” I use as synonym of “artificial”.
      In dictionaries “artificial” is defined as “man-made”.
      Keeping this in mind I don’t see how these words might be misinterpreted in the context they were used.

      Regarding the “desire” and “undesirable”, as long as you care for human rights and regard the rights of girls and women as human rights – any death of females based on the fact that they are females is undesirable.

  • Kurt

    I see a very positive aspect of the one child policy. Women in general will go up in value. A lot of Chinese do not realize how much of a burden their sons will be to them in the near future. I am glad property prices are going up. I am glad that many families are now struggling to help their sons find wives. It is a good thing.

    • Ziccawei

      I see nothing positive about it. It will not mean that ‘Women in general will go up in value’. If anything they will become more of a commodity than they already are. They will be treated more as objects than in previous generations. Prostitution, human trafficking, etc etc – all these things will increase and women will be the victims.

      As regards house prices going up – in cities that will just mean this; big city guys will find wives from neighbouring provinces prepared to put up with less than their big city sisters. Many of these ‘Shanghai Princesses’ will again become the victims as they reach the age of 28 and become shengnu – left out to dry.

      No matter how you look at it – Chinese women are the biggest victims of the OCP. They have been royally fucked.

  • China Shark Mike

    Finally after coming up on 2 yrs I’m convinced that any Chinese man past the age of 30 aren’t worth a damn. Maybe I’m Chinese men bashing or just writing about my observations living and working here. I just met the woman of my dreams right here in Shenzhen. She’s been living in Shenzhen for 9 years without finding a suitable man. That’s a friggen’ decade. Most Chinese weren’t even considered {no future potentiality at all/ no drive for a better life}. Basicly as a whole Chinese culture is steeped in complete apathy. Doesn’t matter is the most common expression, completely indifferent to love or emotions. Peggy told me she’s seen so much sadness trying to find a good man here. A few were also foreigners so she has a hard time trusting any males at all. Gender balance is unnatural and will only promise future societal problems. Having these figuires skewered is just looking for trouble. In my humble opinion it is increases the likelhood of having more useless males with no ambition. Too many women here I see supporting guys with no jobs. I’ve dated quite a few that have stories of men bleeding them dry then leaving when there is no more handouts to be had so they just go back and thier parents take care of them. Darwin’s theory of Survial of the Fittest is being bastardized by this sick obssession with having male children. I personally don’t want to raise a boy in this society, too many negative influences to just disreguard. I talked with my girl and if for some reason could not conceive we would adopt a baby girl. It is quite true about so many cultures doing this worldwide. I take things for granted being raised in America. Starting to rethink long term goals living in China because of some of the nonsense you have to deal with here. If nothing else I am at least considering moving to a city where money isn’t the end all god. Peg says if you are looking for love you’ll never find it in Shenzhen. Her hometown she states {Chengdu} is quite different then the shallowness she’s experienced in Shenzhen. Ultimately as the last poster stated China will truely pay the price for this misguided notion of what sex is preferable. I personally do not like most males here {boys and men children}. Shooting hoops, smoking, drinking, gambling, the favorite pastimes here. I have this one class of 12-13 yr olds {4 girls, 2 boys}. Females always participate and attentive while the 2 boys misbehave and basicly act like a couple of babies. Hence the girls are smarter and the profiency is much higher than the boys of the same age. Parents insist on putting them in a level above thier actual level with the ideas all boys are intelligent. Females progress at a much more rapid rate because they are focused and not spoiled like thier counterparts. More and more are seeking non Chinese for future husbands because most want a suitable guy not just any guy to care for them. Should be interesting to see what this surplus of unmarried males and females will impact China’s overall future. Going to be whole generations of single people growing old and dying alone.

  • Jay K.

    gees people. u guys are jsut going on and on..how about this if chinese women are 2nd class citizens in this heavenly kingdom send them to other foreign countries and have lao wai marry them. hell even furongjiejie could get hitched overseas. then the chinese society will slowly die from too much male to male butt sex

  • China Shark Mike

    Bottom line is things will never change enough to ever really matter. I love China yet have a hard time seeing people being treated so shabbily just because of thier gender.

    • http://www.lovelovechina.com Crystal

      I guess many people know the movie “The Dying Rooms”. For those who haven’t seen it – follow this link.

  • China Shark Mike

    Jay what country do you live in? If it isn’t China I’de be real quiet like. Don’t rant until you’ve walked in another shoes.

    • Jay K.

      well mike shark or whatever it is, i am originally from new york and currently live in china, somewhere in the north part of china. so i guess it answers your answer

      • Jay K.

        question* glasses of wine have made me buzzed at 130am

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