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Where’s Lysistrata? Taiwan’s Not-yet-dauntless Females - Part I

《吕西斯忒拉忒》在哪里?尚未大无畏的台湾女性 - 第一章


Guest article by KevinF

Kevin Fitzpatrick is copy editor and chief writer for Taiwan’s Yellow Fever, Foreign Moons, a blog managed by Shaun Bettinson. The blog explores Western-Taiwanese sexual and romantic relationships and sundry other cross-cultural matters.

Series Epigraph
“I want to tell her ‘Get over it.  And whatever you do, please don’t give us a third book about your relationship with your mother. Writing’s supposed to be cathartic, not fixating.’” – an American friend’s words after finishing Amy Tan’s second book, The Kitchen God’s Wife (1991)

Yellow Fever Foreign Moons

Artwork of Shena

Instrumentality and Fixation

What do you think our biggest problem in Taiwan is? – my Chinese-language teacher asked.

I blinked, shifting back in my chair.  “I don’t know,” I said.  “I’ve only been here six weeks.”

She was already on to her answer, though. “I think we’re too easily satisfied.”

My ex-teacher meant everything:  living spaces, quality of service, manners, education system, government, boss-employee relations, depth of conversation between friends, and, most of all … … …

A couple years later, her mother was dying. “She’s never told me she loves me,” my now-ex- teacher said.  “I want more than anything to hear it.  It’s what I need more than anything else.”

“Why not tell her you love her and keep repeating it if she looks away?  And not get angry if she says nothing or at any dismissive words she says?  Even if you don’t get what you want, won’t you be saving your own life by doing your best on what matters most to you?”

“No,” she said, abstracted, misty-eyed, shaking her head. “No. No.”

This was eighteen years ago.  Taiwan has made notable progress in every category my ex-teacher listed above, including even family relations; I have a few adult students today who say they want their children to be independent and happy above all else – something I never heard voiced eighteen years ago.  In the words of one such parent, “My son has his own personal value.”

These parents are still a minority in Taiwan, though, and their voices appear to have little influence outside their own families.  Further, from what I’ve seen, the voices belong to mostly fathers: the wife of the guy I just quoted does not share his view on their son, he says, and he feels it’s “too difficult” to try to get her to see their son in other than instrumental fashion.  Thus, such voices are, so far anyway, of little use for helping someone get what my ex-teacher wanted; in the part of life that most counts emotionally, as new generations mature, children are still settling for far less than they would like … as the decades roll by….

 

Like America in the 50s, yet behind the ancient Greeks

In the Greek comedy Lysistrata, written 2400 years ago, the eponymous heroine summons the women of all the warring states of Greece to her Athens for an undisclosed purpose.  Waiting impatiently with her friend Calonice, Lysistrata declares that the women would be on time if the appointment were for wine and dancing.

Calonice: My dear, they’ll come. It’s hard for women, you know, to get away. There’s so much to do: husbands to be patted and put in good tempers; servants to be poked out; children washed or soothed with lullays or fed with mouthfuls of pap.

Lysistrata’s plan, unbeknownst to her friend, is to get the women to cooperate in stopping their men from fighting each other, and thereby end decades of civil wars. Specifically, she wants them to withhold sex until the men lay down their arms.  Subjugating the men proves easy in the end; Lysistrata’s chief obstacle, it turns out, is persuading the women to follow her plan.  Simply put, they don’t want to give up sex.  For the sake of a goal that benefits all, though, the pan-Greece women finally agree to unified action.

Lysistrata is, of course, a fictional character, and she was created by a man (Aristophanes); in real life, Greek women 2.4 millennia ago lacked the vote in “democratic” Athens and had access to no top jobs except a priestess post here and there.   Taiwanese women today, on the other hand, are equal before the law and can achieve financial self-sufficiency to a degree their grandmothers when young would have found as implausible as auguries of global warming; availing themselves of the same opportunities as men to higher education and good jobs, some young women today even buy their own apartments. Taiwan’s ascent to the rank of developed nations has reduced, too, and, in many cases, has eliminated altogether, the actual, though not necessarily the supposed, need for women to concern themselves with their parents’ retirement finances. And Taiwan’s world’s-lowest birthrate coupled with formidable education costs has made it far more acceptable for Taiwanese women to not have children (15-20% of my unmarried female students say they don’t want kids). In short, long gone are the agrarian economy and the stark economic inequality between genders that for thousands of years drove women to zealously divine the personal finances of potential mates.

Further, Taiwan has the highest-percent Han-background population in the world: 98% to China’s 92%, with Singapore’s checking in at a measly 74%.  Different from immigrant enclaves such as Amy Tan’s Oakland and Santa Clara, there is, therefore, no apparent need to adhere rigidly to tradition in order to sustain cultural identity.

These factors combine to better position women in Taiwan to emancipate themselves from patriarchy than has ever been the case in a Han-background culture. But symbolically-significant and economically-consequential pillars of patriarchy do remain: wives still are expected to “follow” their mother-in-law; and daughters continue to be excluded from family inheritances, though the law says they are entitled to equal shares.

Simply stated, Taiwanese women, though economically self-sufficient, and despite having received the same voting rights as men during Taiwan’s democratization, have not yet initiated a first wave of feminism.  Indeed, a cliché among North Americans in Taiwan is that the island, socially, is like the U.S. in the 1950s.  Meaning Lysistrata be damned: women could be pursuing economic equality within their families but instead continue to trade sex and companionship for personal gain. What I make note of most, though, is that I’ve been hearing this “like America in the 50s” cliché for twenty years now.  Umm… aren’t decades only supposed to last ten years?

A patriarchy perpetuated by mothers

To their credit, quite a few young women in the past ten years (20% or more of my students) have told me that they don’t judge guys by their money when sizing up boyfriend candidates.  And the percent who strongly resent pressure to marry is as high or higher.  But in many cases pressure finally becomes decisive, and when it does, a partner’s finances become paramount. Almost none will marry a man their parents don’t approve of; and, though there are exceptions, most mothers will not give sanction to a daughter marrying a man who does not own or cannot make a case that he will soon enough own a house.  Otherwise, what would a mother (and grandmother) have to quietly boast of when comparing her daughter to those of her relatives, colleagues, and classmates? A daughter’s educational achievement is yesterday’s laurels once the girl’s education is finished.  Marriage of a daughter to a financially-secure man, though, can be retailed for the rest of a mother’s life.

Thus, though the economic need for it is largely gone, the meme that holds male money to be decisive remains – passed on most of all by mothers.  Sons suffer, too, by this meme if their families are not wealthy enough to give them houses; real estate in Taiwan is some of the more expensive in the world.  Yet few sons buck cultural imperatives, because they are generally allotted an automatic degree of their mother’s affection; indeed they are often doted on and babied, excessive doting being a key symptom of instrumental love – of “love” that fails to reckon personal value, that instead sees another primarily as an extension of self and is concerned foremost with getting the other to satisfy own needs.

Clear favoritism is the other key symptom of such love; daughters therefore so often get short shrift.  Certainly this is not true in every family; Taiwanese families in which daughters are loved equal to sons by their mothers can easily be found.  (And I’ve seen a few mothers being harshly abusive to young sons.)  In general, though, daughters are still less valued — and by enough mothers, quite obviously so.

It is this deprivation, felt by mothers, too, in their own childhoods; by grandmothers in childhood before them; and by women back a hundred generations that today perpetuates all remaining patriarchal Chinese memes.  Yes, foot binding is long gone, but caricature-silly patriarchy still has legs in Taiwan – today less because of men, I argue; rather, mostly because of mothers’ fixations.  That some mothers do equally love daughters alters the percentage but does not jeopardize the meme that daughters are worth less, because this fundamental meme licenses other patriarchy-serving memes which, in feedback loops, keep nourishing the “daughters are worth less” meme – and will for some time continue to nourish this meme even as more parents – including mothers — do love their daughters equally.

These other memes, which I will examine in upcoming parts of this article, bring an interlude of short-term benefits to women before (and in some cases, after) marriage settles them, in turn, into the role of chief perpetuator of patriarchy. It’s a bad deal for everyone; patriarchy damages men, too.  But few Taiwanese men complain about having to eat poorly-baked cake; women, though they arguably get less of that cake (and also, arguably, in enough cases get more), are, as I will show later, often trying to have it and eat it, too.  And they’re pushed and harangued into this effort by mothers and quasi-mother figures.

Until a few Taiwanese women choose open emotional independence from their mothers and simultaneously band together to encourage other women to choose the same, mother-driven patriarchy will continue.  The American 50s will last for decades more in Taiwan unless a generation of daughters decides to end it: successors to my ex-teacher will keep failing to get what they need most; Amy Tan-style fixations will lurk unresolved; patriarchal memes will persist; and romantic as well as familial relationships will be characterized foremost by instrumentality.

Without a few Lysistratas, “No… no… no” will still be the response to what matters most. Everyone will keep settling for too easily satisfied.

 

Next:  Part II — Lysistrata and the Net; Every Fish Gets Caught

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  • sarah

    I met this mid 30 very pretty Taiwanese women in the social circle last year. I enjoyed the conversation with her tremendously. I was delightfully surprsied how freely she talked about politics, economics, and girly topics. She had worked in airline and tourism industry for years in Taiwan and took a break to come and get a master degree in the US and was on her way back to Taiwan. She dated and was happy being single. I am quite familiar about Asian cultures and women nowdays. I found her very refreshing that she didn’t care that she is in mid 30s and single ( which I agree to her attitude and I didn’t quite get “shengnu”concept of Mainland Chinese women that Cyrstal talked about earlier). It maybe true that she is quite different from Asain women I have met and befriended with. I just wonder if it was just her or she truly represents the “modern” Taiwanese yoong women of this century.

    • ziccawei

      Mid-30′s and happy being single? Get real……..

      Trust me, alarm bells are going off in her head, She is panic stricken.

      She is in a speeding car, brakes are not working and she’s just passed an old sign that says
      ‘Bridge Out – Go Back’.

      • sarah

        Hi Ziccawei, not every women want to get married. To have someone to be with is a different thing. I am one of those women. Yes, I am married. I had never wanted to, however, the man I loved convinced me. I’m not a feminist either. Just like who I am and what I do. That’s all.

        • ziccawei

          I think every Chinese woman wants to get married. Maybe in Taiwan they don’t, but in mainland China, they do. Despite what ever Chinese girls say about not wanting to be married, they do.

          That said, I have met many Chinese girls that say they don’t want to get married. I think they say this for a number of different reasons. First could be that they look at the kind of marriage their mothers or aunts have and decide that they don’t want that kind of life. I often hear this group equating marriage with ‘no freedom’. A second group might say that they don’t want to get married because they have reached 30 and may realise that it would be very difficult to find a guy. So they say they don’t want to get married to save face. They could say that they never wanted to get married in the first place.

          A third group may quite possibly not want to get married for reasons best known to themselves – they have no belief in the concept of marriage, they truly are independent or they are gay. Could be any number of reasons.

          That said, I think that traditional Chinese values play a very important part and can have a very powerful effect. This is why I say all Chinese women want to get married, because if they don’t then anyone that knows them will regard them as odd or not a good daughter.

          In Shanghai now there are over a million girls that are not married, many of them may never get married due to any of the reasons stated above. I am NOT saying there is anything wrong with this, as far as I am concerned they can live what ever life they want to live, but one thing that it is and that is very odd.
          It is very very strange in China for these women, at their age, to not be married, no matter how modern Chinese people think Chinese society may be.

          • Sarah Walker

            I believe what you have said is true, especially in mainland or else the word, “Shengnu” wouldn’t exist (apologize if I mispell the word).

  • http://namelessintaipei.wordpress.com Bonita

    Your post had multiple points but below are my comments:

    * You’re right, Taiwanese women can last till their mid-30s and still be single. They pride themselves of their interesting lives (and rightly so), their flourishing careers vs. the men, and don’t want to settle with just any other guy. By their 30s, they panic and find a regular stable Taiwanese guy who are less interesting than they are. Then as they settle down, they convince themselves they are happy. Funny, but true.

    * Older single women is a result of fierce competition about their same gender cohorts. If you’ve never been to Taipei, you’ll know. They have the hottest women in Asia.

    * Parent-child relationship: I think the parents just don’t care as much on what their kids choose. There’s a lot of freedom given to children in making life decisions with maybe the exception of men who still stay within the household post marriage. My female friends could go out and party, go home with a guy, with parents not really making it a big deal. My parents would’ve KILLED me if it was me.

    * I disagree, I think Taiwanese women in general still care about the guy’s cash. Only a few do not. A guy’s job is still important. It’s only when they are of certain financial status and start getting desperate that they start not caring.

    * Yes, Taiwanese guys are doted on by their mothers, but think this is an Asian thing. My boyfriend is still a mother’s boy. :)

  • http://atthebackofthehill.blogspot.com/ ATBOTH

    Intriguing so far. What it sounds like is though possibilities have opened up economically, socially certain patterns are still strong enough to dominate.
    They are freer than they were. But because Taiwan is more entrenched in maintaining the patterns of the past, there are imperatives that eventually must kick in.
    Is it actually even possible for anyone who is Chinese to really escape pattern?
    Or do the hierarchic familial and relationship terms force adherence to cultural imperatives, and keep them within the mindset that the man must be economically of a certain level, and that some things are just the natural way they must be?

  • Kevin

    Thanks for the interesting comments thus far. Much appreciated. I’ll address whatever on Monday. For right now just this: the hottest women I’ve ever seen in Asia, Bonita, were not in Taipei but in Urumqi, China, where the genes of Han, Uigher, and the “stans” meet.

  • sarah

    Kevin, I guess you haven’t been in Thailand ;-)

  • Kevin

    Sarah: Perhaps your friend is part of a vanguard, perhaps not – or maybe she’s part of a phase on the way to the formation of a vanguard. Moving to Taipei is the classic solution here for getting away from the monotony and pressure of social ideas of the majority on the island. It doesn’t, however, mean apron strings have really been cut – that emotional independence from Mom has been achieved (though, I’m not discounting the possibility that they have been).

    Plus, it sounds like you spent time with her abroad, not in Taiwan. The time when Taiwanese women who were so different abroad reverted almost completely to their local selves upon return here is perhaps gone, but still the acid test is what she is like here, not abroad.

    Ziccawei: There definitely are women in Taiwan of all three types you cite who are probably not going to get married. I can’t even guess at the percent other than to say it’s below 15%, but Westerners end up meeting a higher percent of them, I’d say. Not wanting to get married and disliking parental pressure to get married, are, of course, two different things, though, yes.

    Bonita: I wouldn’t be so quick to say that parents give daughters a lot of freedom to choose. Girls who want to find without a lot of difficulty ways to live pretty free lives, but there’s often a lot of lying to parents that enables this; perhaps parents are complicit in this in that they ignore their intuitions that they’re being lied to. A degree of indifference towards daugther is involved in some of this, I’d say. Anyway, though, it’s chiefly in two areas that parental control matters per my thesis: education and, most of all, choice of spouse.

    I agree, though, that not that many women don’t care about a partner’s finances; I don’t take my adult-cram-school students to be representative of the overall demographics here; of course they’re not. Perhaps this helps clarify: One student told me that 90% of university girls don’t care about a guy’s money, 50% of women age 25 don’t care, and below 10% of women age 30 and up don’t care.

    AtBoth: My questions exactly. I’ll give the best answer I can come up with in this series.

    • Sarah Walker

      Kevin, yes I met her in the US.Generally speaking, I think Asian mothers have tremendous impact on their children (both sons ad daughters).

    • Sarah Walker

      Look forward to this series.

  • Bored in Melbourne

    Kevin although I really enjoy the subject matter you are dealing with, for some reason I found your writing somewhat difficult. Perhaps it is the sentence structure and double negatives, but I found myself re-reading the sentences.

    I am not making these comments as a personal attack by the way. Perhaps it is just a reflection of my own recently criticism of my own writing.

  • Kevin

    Thanks, Sarah. I hope it meets expctations.

    And I understand, BiM; if it were someone else’s writing, not my own, I might have trouble with it, too.

    Simpler is better, no doubt. And I do use simpler styles for personal essays and stories. I don’t know how to use a simpler style for something like this, though. Efforts to be objective-yet-comprehensive make style issues problematic, I’ve always found. Maybe someday I’ll find solutions. For now, though, that would take more time than I have.

    Anyway, I sympathize, and thanks for reading. And I’ll not pay no attention at all to the matter of double negatives, hah, hah!

  • Ed en Vadrouille

    Good to see that I’m not the only one reflecting and writing on the situation of women. Though you seem to have gone in far greater depth (I’m more into the leisurely “story-telling”).
    I guess a consequence of this is what makes it harder for some of us (including myself as a non-native speaker) to follow your point: You often diverge, wanting to say a great lot, in the same sentence.
    Due to our ridiculous education system, we, French, tend to do the same. Earlier on in my life when i started joining forums in the US, people would often complain that my sentences and posts were too long. I nowadays force myself to keep them short. Makes it easier to understand, and forces me to be clearer.

  • Cristina

    “I’ve seen Craig yesterday. He starts to realize his mistake. Communication between us is improving a lot… I am sure that soon he will step back and come back with me. I will send you an email soon and let you know how things are going.” Thanks to Dr. Gboco(gbocotemple@yahoo.com)

  • Cristina

    “I’ve seen Craig yesterday. He starts to realize his mistake. Communication between us is improving a lot… I am sure that soon he will step back and come back with me. I will send you an email soon and let you know how things are going.” Thanks to Dr. Gboco(gbocotemple@yahoo.com)