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Language Barriers: A unique bond, or an insurmountable wall? Part II

语言障碍:一个独特的联结还是一道不可逾越的墙?第二章


Guest article by Ben

Ben is a young American living in Beijing, and the founder and webmaster of IsThisFate.com, a brand new international Chinese online dating platform. For a completely free three month trial, please sign up now at IsThisFate.com. Contact Ben at ben@isthisfate.com

Lovers fight

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In the first part of this post, I argued that encountering language barriers in cross cultural dating can be a bonding factor, a unique and nuanced trait of your relationship that only exists in the world between you two. Yet, for every one charming love story of a couple surmounting a language barrier and finding true transcendent love, I am sure there are dozens left behind in the dust.

Not to be a pessimist or cynic, but I think that even those foreigners who speak decent Chinese, or Chinese speaking decent English, often overlook the unique challenges cross-cultural dating can pose. My purpose in writing this is not to dissuade anybody from pursuing anyone who might not speak their own language fluently, but rather to continue an honest discussion of some of the factors involved, this time focusing on the little annoyances and big problems.

First and foremost, it can sometimes be difficult to be certain if the cute girl who is pursuing you is interested in you, the person, as opposed to you, your language. I’ve been on dates with Chinese girls before where I slowly realize they are simply there for some free English practice, and really had no intention of becoming romantically involved. I’ve even had one girl show up with a friend, not to help with translation, but for a free 2 on 1 English lesson!

If, after a few dates, you find the two of you still haven’t moved past simple conversation topics (which seem strangely like bland English textbook sample dialogues), good chance you have found a friend or even student, not potential date.

In another situation I can personally attest to, beware if you find the only humor in the first few dates relates directly to your fumbled attempts at communicating with each other. A good friend of mine loves to tell the story of his “Google translate” date. They would meet for coffee, and have conversations back and forth solely through Google’s translation software, occasionally pausing to laugh at the absurdity of it all. Yes, mispronunciations and wacky misunderstandings are good for a laugh, but can run out of steam pretty quickly. There is plenty of intrigue and romance to be found when trying to express yourself in a foreign language, but if the laughs are coming solely from goofy mistakes, take a minute to assess why you are there, and if the relationship has any real or potential meaning.

Previously I talked about the potential romance which can be found inherently in studying a foreign language. Yet you can’t ignore the nitty gritty details that simply need to be drilled into your head when studying a language, especially Chinese. Don’t like the idea of your girlfriend or boyfriend snapping at you every time you mess up a tone, confusing “chu” with “qu”, or simply speaking nonsense?

All languages, and in particular Chinese, require hours and hours of drilling, often over the course of several years, and many people simply cannot handle the pressure of what amounts to dating your language teacher. Plus, he or she learned Chinese many years ago, and wayyyy differently than you currently are. Things which will make inherent sense to them will leave you dumbfounded (try the simple 把 grammar structure for instance), and the chances are they don’t have the patience to walk you through the subtle differences between 以来 and 自从 (to randomly choose one of millions of potential examples). Learning Chinese is f***** hard, and is a path full of twists and turns and ripped notebook pages and broken pens and ripped out hair and the like. You don’t want to confuse frustration with the language with anger at your partner, or your personal crusade against the 3rd tone with a lack of respect for her.

And finally, even if you speak fluent Chinese, or your partner speaks fluent English, you still may have trouble understanding exactly WHAT is trying to be said. “Maybe” means “no”, “yes” means “I am too embarrassed to say no”, “ok” means “I don’t want to lose face by admitting I don’t understand what you are saying”, and “don’t worry about it” means “you sure as hell better buy me flowers, cook me dinner, and give me an expensive birthday present, otherwise I will never stop dropping subtle, if not nefarious reminders of this moment and continue making your life a nightmare”. Ugh.

So what do you think? Did I accurately describe the positives and negatives associated with attempting to surmount a language barrier in a relationship? Is doing so the fulfillment of a giddy romantic dream, or a hopeless slog amounting to impending doom? What factors did I leave out? Let’s hear it!

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  • Reality

    You hit it on the head, a slap right in the face of those whose ‘love’ life is pathetically confined on the dinner table or in the bedroom without spirtual connections. My lord bless them.

  • http://motpol.blogspot.com Hans

    I agree with a lot of the above, but I honestly don’t think that learning Chinese is more f***** hard than learning other foreign languages. It’s a steeper hill to climb initially before you get used to the 汉字, sure, but after that I’d say Chinese, contrary to many other languages, gets easier and easier the more you learn. While French and German grammar is hell and gets more and more complicated, Chinese grammar is pretty straight forward. Then there’s the cultural differences you mention, manifested in how we express ourselves. That’s just something we have to live with. The code for all this is PATIENCE, UNDERSTANDING and LOVE.

  • Pudding

    I think that everywhere guys have the same problems decoding what girls actually mean. China is just another place to add to that list. You just have to be around them and learn what they really are trying to say. Even then every girl is different. Chinese, I really didn’t find it that hard. But it’s my first non-native language. If perhaps I tried Spanish and then Chinese, maybe I would have a different perspective.

    I agree with Hans. It take a little more patience, understanding, and love to date cross culturally. If you really think about it everyone dates cross culturally anyway. If I move back to the States and date a girl from California. I being from the Midwest would have a slightly different culture to begin with. It may not be as different as a Chinese women and a Western man but it’s different nonetheless. Then there is the age gap. Or generation gap as most would call it in China. I hear it often. Which is like an entire different culture on it’s own. So really being from a different country could be the same as even being a local Chinese guy.

    All relationships are work. That’s the bottom line.

  • paul k

    i found like most here dating a chinese woman with little english can sometimes try your patience yes !!!

    my wife started out with a dating agency in china that eventually ripped of her hard savings and closed it’s doors !!!

    so this was the first contact i had with my wife!!!
    i thought she spoke good english until i found out the agency did the replys for her !!!

    i had no idea about such things i did not know these agencies sold her photos and information to on line internet sites !!!

    it was a good thing i had sent her my e-mail address and got her phone number early !!! i may have never seen my love again !!! just lucky and i guess it was ment to be !!!

    the next thing i did was e-mail her and some calls to her home told me her english was very very small !! not what i expected for sure so everyone be careful out there !!!

    a few time the poor translations almost caused us to break up !!!!

    i mean very serious incorrect translations !!!

    i am so happy we did not but i started to learn if the translations do not sound like something my wife would say then i better ask for clarification !!! something must be wrong and if not then ask her to explain why she had a certain idea or thought !!!!

    a very good example my wife told me from the beginning she would be happy no matter where we live as long as she is living with me also her daughter as a family together !!!

    she knows where i live and all and i sent her photos long before we were married of my apartment !!!

    i am older i do not want the burden of a house she is not that young either !!!

    the other day out of the blue she said she would like to work and buy a house !!!
    i told her that we will not need a house and i do not want her to go into debt for 30 years she needs to relax more and enjoy her life once she gets to canada !!!

    she sounded a little disappointed i asked her why she wanted a house now !!!!

    her answer was i do not want to live in a home owned by the government !!!
    then it dawned on me why she thought this way she lives now in a house they call it but it is like a condo to us !! they buy it in a large building but her building is owned by the government as well as the factory where she works like most things in china !!! hehehe

    she assumed the same with my place !!! once i told her that in canada most businesses and homes or apartment buildings are owned by private individuals she was very happy !!!

    i said but if you like you can buy a car both her daughter and herself she was so happy to know that !!!

    my wife is a very hard worker and not a gold digger !!!
    she just wants us to be a family !!!
    her exhusband cheated on her 9 years ago and she raised her daughter alone and did a great job !!

    her friends kept telling her to get a western man that western men do not care if you are an older women and have children especially a daughter from another man !!!

    i tell you i would not trade my 22 year old chinese daughter for 100 males !! it is almost like having 2 wives my daughter looks after me as good as her mother !!!

    not to mention my 46 year old wife looks like 25 or 30 years old and is a knock out in a minie skirt and tall black boots or high heels !!! hehehe

    plus she can cook and clean and will rip anyones face off who trys to do harm or insult me a real tiger woman but has the deepest respect for me it is almost sickening !!! hehehe

    so yes i got off track here but we have had our fun and laughs and bad time because of language !!!

  • C

    it looks like china is not the place for you at all to look for a female mate…

    then its better to get someone from a more developed country, white and from the

    same culture as you…